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DNA database resist at all costs

by yackyack @ 2007-09-08 - 09:44:52

I was reading Stephs blog the other day and read her post on DNA and Civil liberties I commented over there but thought I'd reproduce it here for furhter comment.

The debate stemmed from the comments of Lord Justice Sedley who called for everyone to be put on the national DNA database including foreign visitors. On the face of it it seems like a difficult argument to resist, who can really argue effectively against measures that would ( if we are to believe in the science) make the identification of perpetrators of rape, child killing and murder so much easier.

To be honest if I truly trusted those who governed me, if I hadn’t bore witness to a long list of civil abuses of power in my short time on this planet, if I hadn’t read books like 1984 and subsequently seen parallels in my own everyday life, if there truly was some means of ensuring that my very personal essence and blueprint, god given, biological, non political, non partisan, naturally created material exclusive to me could only ever be used to detect murderous or sexually abusive or violent crime then, perhaps, just perhaps I could well live with it. How can anyone seriously argue that a technology that actually identifies the perpetrator of a crime, that could well be commited again on others within our community, endangering the lives of our sisters and brothers, daughers and sons not be used?

I certainly can’t, not without being mocked and derided as an irresponsible idiot; yet like so many others have identified this isn’t what people have issue with. People have a serious issue with trust, they simply don't (rightly so too) trust those who’d be entrusted to ensure it was used in the right way. Data would be leaked and sold and companies would use this data in sneaky underhand ways. Forget the data protection act, that’s circumvented and ignored daily, its an old clunky mechanism that just cant keep up and is poorly policed.

People would be be right not to trust that cold hearted rationale that would for examples sake, take the chance and probability out from say, medical or life insurance. Companies like these would jump on arguments that say that open disclosure of ones DNA profile should be a requirement of being accepted into a policy. It would be used to develop multiple policies tailored specifically towards certain types of ailements. People would be frightened to the ends of the earth with probabilities that said, your gene profile shows you have a predisposition to cancer or (insert any other number of possible nasty later life diseases) and would be expected to pay the appropriate amount. Society would become eugenicised by a system that made living with a later possibility an economic burden. People would be expected to submit a ‘clean’ DNA profile to prospective employers or life partners, who’d want to knowingly pass on a death sentence or disability to their yet to be had offspring? What company would want to invest thousands of pounds in a person who might be dieing of leukaemia some 4 years down the line?

No, DNA profiling needs to be used for research into gene therapies and stuff that contributes to the greater good without damaging or spoiling the lives of those who live today and tommorrow and thats that nothing else, ever.As much as it pains me to say I really must be satisfied with what we have today (crime detection wise) and live with the consequences of its shortcomings. I think the law as it stands today is simply ill equipped to deal with the pandoras box of issues that would stem from such a policy. I relly dont want to live a life in a society that legislates reactively. Put some very solid, cast iron , irreversible protective measures in place 1st, then I might, just might have a second look. Not today though, no way.


 
 

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deleted user [Visitor]
http://stephiblog.wordpress.com
08/09/07 @ 13:12

Excellent post. I think the problem is that if we were all on the national database it would be too tempting for a government to misuse that information, like racial/social profiling. When the database was first created it was only meant to have samples from convicted criminals not innocent people - now about a third (over a million) of the people on it haven't been convicted of any criminal offence.

Also given that so many of the DNA profiles on the database have incorrect information recorded on the system it's hardly encouraging. Like you, I think the potential benefits of everyone being recorded on there are outweighed by the fact that we can't trust the government with this information, it has already proved that it's willing to change the rules at a drop of a hat.

yackyackyackyack [Member]
http://robwatts.blog.co.uk
08/09/07 @ 13:28

I agree entirely Steph, it simply raises so many questions and there aren't that many answers, other than pat responses around, you have nothing to fear so long as you abide by every dictat (law) on the statute. Just look at the response to 911 and see how that's been used as a platform to ratchet up all manner of controls and restriction. It really is scary to think that as Rob said on your blog, that access to services like, healthcare, credit, passports etc will all be subject to acceptance and compliance with this DNA DB thing.

Government and corporations salivate over such things as they virtually eliminate that tiresome task of tieing people down so that they may be controlled. It's really scary that so many people probably just shrug their shoulders and fail to grasp the bigger picture and ramifications of it all.

I mentioned insurance and health care as an example, but lets also consider a scenario of pre nuptial screening,or go a step further and look at the idea of people being prevented from reproducing on the basis of what their DNA profile would seem to suggest. It may be laughable to think of it right now, but its not too far a leap in the imagination, especially when you look at so called 'healthcare rationing' around drugs and their cost. If treatment can be refused on the grounds of suspected efficacy and cost, then I really don't see why some quango or other wouldn't try and push for greater use of such a 'tool' like the DNA db. Sorry you can't have a child, unless you can prove that you have the means to pay for the health treatment which due to your DNA profile 'it' will most likely need.

Sick, heartless and cold.

Who the fuck wants to live in a world like that?

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